Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Ashraf Ali Thanvi: Analysis

Ashraf Ali Thanvi al deobandi is one of the top scholars from deobandi cult. He is called as hakim al ummah meaning “the sage of the ummah” by the followers of the deobandi cult.

Few selections from books of this deobandi sage are given below for readers to know the mentality of Ashraf ali thanvi.

It is important to know that Ashraf Ali thanvi al deobandi showed disrespect to prophet in his book hifzul iman , page 7, where he compared the knowledge of the prophet with the knowledge of animals, children and every insane person.

For this anti Islamic writing, two hundred and sixty eight scholars from the Indian subcontinent and thirty three scholars from harmayn sherifain declared the fatwa (verdict) of kufr upon Ashraf ali thanvi al deobandi.


1. The day to day teaching of Ashraf ali thanvi has been collected and published as Al ifadat al Yaumiya. It is also called as Malfuzat hakim al ummah.

On page 255 of this book ( malfooz 410) Ashraf ali thanvi writes:

“The belief ( aeteqad) of normal people is not of much importance. Our Hazrat Mawlana Mohammed Yaqoob sahib used to given an example of belief held by common people. This example is indecent but it suits very well. He ( mawlana yaqoob ) used to say that belief of common people is like the private part of a donkey, when it increases it increases a lot and when it diminishes there is no trace of it. Indeed it is a strange example”




Indeed only a deobandi sage can have this type of example in his book!!


2 In the same book ( malfooz number 43) page 61 , Ashra ali thanvi writes:

“A man told me that he does not get satisfaction/happiness ( maza) when he does dhikr. To which I replied, there is no happiness in dhikr. The happiness is when sperm (mazi) comes out during foreplay with wife.”



This type of examples can be given only by a deobandi sage!!!

3 In the same book, malfooz number 49 , Ashraf ali thanvi al deobandi is condemning the reasoning given by naturist sect. In order to show that how reasoning cannot be justified he writes:

“Like a man told that he used to have dirty relationship with his mother. It was questioned to him that how can he have this? This is a dirty act. To which he replied: “what is the problem in this act? After all once upon a time my whole body was insider her and now only a part of my body goes inside her”.



Ashraf ali thanvi did not feel any shame in giving this example and how can he get ashamed! After all a person who can show disrespect to prophet can go to any extant!
May Allah save this ummah from these types of hakim al ummah and his followers!. Ameen!

4 In the same book page 212 (volume 9), Asharf ali thanvi describes an incidence about his maternal uncle ( mamu).

Ashraf ali thanvi writes:

“Abdur Rahman khan requested mamu to give a speech so that people can be benefited. Uncle did not want to give the speech so he told others that he will put a condition to be fulfilled before making a speech and since condition will not be full filled, I will not make the speech. People asked him , what will be his condition ? To which uncle of ashraf ali thanvee replied that he wants to go naked in the market, with some people pulling his organ from the front , others fingering him from behind and a group of children calling him bharwa, bharwa .” ( bharwa means pimp in urdu).




Indeed, thanvi saheb’s uncle had some innovative idea! But what made ashraf ali thanvee mention this incidence is another point to discuss!


5 Ashrafus sawaneh is a biography of Ashraf ali thanvi, written by his student Ajizul hasan.

On page 64 of this book there is an interesting discussion.

“Once I told Hazrat( Ashraf ali thanvee sahib) that I have one ugly wish that I should have been woman and should have got married to you. To which hazrat ( ashraf ali thanvi) replied that I will get reward for this thought”

Here we see that this maulvi gets reward for getting a thought of marrying ashraf ali thanvi! But as per deobandis celeberating mawlid, doing ithal e sawab on food and reciting salwat upon our beloved prophet ( sal allahu alayhi wa sallam) before adhan , everything is a biddah and will not give an reward!!

This is the true face of deobandism!

6 Asharf Ali thanvee writes:


“A very pious and religious man had this “ Kashf” that Hazrat Ayesha (Rd) is going to visit my house . This pious man informed me about his ‘kashf”. My mind gave me this answer that I am also going to get a young aged girl in marriage because when prophet married Ayesha Rd , he was above fifty and she was of very less age.

( Risala Al Imdad. Month of Safar , 1335 AH)

The wives of the prophet ( sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) is the mother of all the believers .

No muslim will even think of such dirty interpretation of kashf or dream.
But Deobandis consider prophet as ‘elder brother” and they say prophet should be given only as much respect as it is given to an elder brother.

What is the result?

We can see this dirty interpretation in which he uses the word” KAMSIN AURAT HAAT AAYEGEE” which will transate into” I will get hold of a young/ virgin woman”.

Lanatullahi alal kaazibeen .




Read this Urdu wordings from the pen of Ashraf Ali Thanvee

“ Ek zakir saleh ko maqshoof hua ki haqeer ke ghar hazrat Ayesha aaney wali hain.Unhoney mujhsey kaha. Mear zehan usee mayyan usee taraf muntaqil hua ki KAMSIN AURAT HAAT AAYEGEE., is munasibat sey ki jan huzoor sal allahu alaihi wa sallam ney Hazrat Ayesha sey nikah kiya to huzoor ka sun shreef pachaas sey zyada tha aur hazrat Ayesha bahut kam umar ki theen”


7 Ashraf ali thanvee also wrote ‘ behisti zewar’ ( heavenly ornaments) which contains highly objectionable issues regarding females. Deobandis have removed that section so the present edtion of this book does not contain these issues.

Insha Allah in future this topic will be discussed.

Few lines by brother shardil. (Slight edition from my side)


jin ke naam se zuban ho ghaandi deobandi deobandi
jin ke kaam meh sheetan ki dhandi
deobandi deobandi
jin bunyad ha angraiz ki mansobabandi
deobandi deobandi
jin ka asol ho deshatpasandi
deobandi deobandi
jin ke hath hain khoon muslaman se rangini
deobandi deobandi
kon hain petro dallor ke jihadi
deobandi deobandi
Islam ke dhushman azali
deobandi deobandi

26 comments:

TheSacredPath said...

Mashallah!!! Good research brother into these double faced crooks deobandi!!

Been waiting long time for this site to update :)

lone said...
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lone said...

YOU FOOL,FILTHY PERSON,DIRTY,SWINE MINDED PERSON.HOW DARE YOU WRITE SUCH DIRTY COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROPHETS AND SAHABAH.
NAUZUBILLAH.
THE POEM YOU WROTE DESCRIBES THAT YOU ARE A DISGUSTING PERSOM AND FILTHY PERSON.

A GOOD PERSON WILL NEVER HAVE A TONGUE AND LIKING FOR SUCH A POEM.

YOU HAVE FILTHY MIND THAT IS WHY U WROTE SUCH A POEM.

A RIGHTEOUS PERSON WILL HAVE PROVED OTHERWISE

AFTER READING I OBSERVED YOU ARE FULL OF HATRED AND IGNORANCE

IF YOU ARE MUSLIM THAN REPENT NOW WITH SINCERITY.

IF YOU ARE KAFIR HELL FIRE IS SEARCHING FOR YOU.

lone said...

because of people like you ummat is getting divided.

Qazi Monis said...

You are the people because of whom deen is going out of our lives. You guys divided this sacred religion. You guys created sects in islam. You guys wanted a leadership of your own and so you created a propaganda against maulana ashraf ali thanwi and therefore created a sect barelwi.

I urge you please.. please come to common terms and follow the path of qura'n and be true muslims forget what maulana ashraf ali said forget what everybody else said and just follow the prophet )PBUH) and qura'n. May allah give guide us in the right path. Please all get united. I again say PLEASE.

Frash said...

Ye akhir zama hai, isme ap jaise hi log hongey jo buzargo se nafrat karte hain....un pai tuhmat lagate hain....Allah ap jaise loggo ko jaldse jald utha le...

Wasalam.....

Malik said...

Innalillah e Wa Inna elaihey Rajioun....
Ya Allah essay log jo ommat men tafarrukay ka baess banny onhen hidayat ata farma or agar on ki kismat men hadayat ni hy tou onhen is duniya men zaleel o ruswa farma or onhen is duniya se otha k jahannum men daal dijiye...
Ameeeeenn....
Wassalam.

sayeed said...

Totally confused here, which 'Idara' which 'Ulmaa' to follow... Barelvi abuses Deobandi and same equal refute from Debandis as Well..! if some one can guide me here is my FaceBook Account... plz text me if someone wants to defend Ashraf Ali Thanvi. I would appriciate if anyone does it... "http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1743658231" and my Email Id sayeed85@ymail.com

fatha said...

Indeed a Good Research on Thanwi a very True one. Listen Oh People...its a Hadith of Sarkar that His Ummah will be divided into 73 Sects & only one out of them will be Jannati. So No one can stop saying of the Prophet Sallalahu Alaihi Wasallam. So align your aqeeda with the right ones . Allah has given you ability to judge the right ones so its uup to you to seek the Truth. One thing i can tell you that Deobandis are the bigggest liers and cheaters , You just take the above books & do your research . But ensure you get the original copies of the above mentioned book as the new edition have abondoned these pages.

Regards
Momin.

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imran said...

The false propaganda against and blatant fabrications about our highly acclaimed and respected Ulama of Deoband by the ignorant must be refuted at all costs.

False Allegation

Ashraf Ali Thanvi, a founder member of Deoband says: 'The Holy Prophet (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam) has an education like that of children, lunatics and animals of every category.' (Hifzul Imaan pg. 7)

The Truth

The view of Hadhrat Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi is that: Hadhrat Moulana was asked, 'Did you in Hifzul Imaan or any other book write anything directly or indirectly comparing the education of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam) to that of children, lunatics and animals' If not then what is your ruling regarding a person who holds such a belief'' In reply to that Moulana states, 'Let alone writing such falsehood and filth, my heart had never even perceived such falsehood and verily if anyone holds such a belief he is out of the fold of Islam.' (Faisal-e-Khusoomat pg.21)

Clarification

Hadhrat Hakimul Ummah, Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (author of the famous 'Bahishti Zewar') did not write the abovementioned statement in Hifzul Imaan. Nor is it his belief. It is a slander on the said Moulana. In fact Hadhrat Moulana has stated clearly in 'Hifzul Imaan' that, 'Knowledge with regard to the Excellence of Prophethood has been bestowed totally upon Rasul (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam) (Hifzul Imaan pg. 12)

imran said...

False Allegation

Shaytaan has more education than our Prophet (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam). (Barahine Qatia pg. 51 - Khalil Ahmad Ambhetwi)

Truth

We strongly believe and openly claim that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam) was given more knowledge than the entire creation of Allah and it is our belief that whosoever says that anyone has more knowledge than Rasulullah (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam) then such a person is a Kaafir. Our great 'lama have already given a Fatwa of Kufr upon a person who says Shaytaan has more knowledge than Rasulullah (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam) then how could I ever have written such a thing. (Al Muhnad Allal Mufannad Q&A 18-19)

Clarification

It is totally incorrect. This sentence is not written anywhere in 'Baraahine Qaati'ah', that 'Shaytaan has more knowledge than Rasulullah (Sallallaahu'layhi Wasallam). 'Moulana Khalil Ahmad (RA) was asked whether he wrote such a statement or not' He replied, 'I did not write such a statement anywhere. It is an open slander on me. On the day of Qiyaamat account will be taken with Ahmad Raza Khan.'

False Allegation

To think of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam) in Salaat is worse than thinking of cows and donkeys. (Siraate Mustaqeem pg. 150)

Clarification

The abovementioned statement is not found anywhere in 'Siraate Mustaqeem' that, 'To think of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam) in Salaat is worse than thinking of cows and donkeys.'
That which was written in 'Sarfe Himmat'. This is terminology used by the Sufis in Tasawwuf (the spiritual field). 'Sarfe Himmat' in 'Tasawwuf' means that a person's meditation over a thing becomes so overpowering and predominant that no other thoughts penetrate into the mind and soul. Like a mirror, if a person does not want any person's reflection to come into it, he covers it with a black cloth and thus no reflection will appear. To contemplate over a figure so that no other thing is contemplated is called 'Sarfe Himmat'.
This has been forbidden in Salaat, that besides Allah, 'Sarfe Himmat' should not be done towards anyone. Salaat should purely and solely be for Allah alone. If 'Sarfe Himmat' is done towards Rasulullah (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam), then the entire Salaat and Ibaadat will be for him.
On the other hand, if any thoughts of cows, donkeys, business, etc. come to mind, or a person gets drowned in these thoughts whilst in Salaat, it is regrettable. There is no fear of it being worshipped. In fact the person regrets that in the course of an esteem Ibaadat like Salaat, he should have such thoughts, Astaghfirullah.
The Kitaab, 'Siraate Mustaqeem' is based on 'Tasawwuf'. The objector is not versed in Tasawwuf'. Therefore, he has translated 'Sarfe Himmat' to mean a mere thought.
What comes to mind is this; that the Objector presents a picture of a Grade One child, learning to read and write ABC and wishing to interpret the writings of Shakespeare.
Moreover, it is stated in the Hadith that Salaat should be performed with full attention. Therefore, when the name of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam) is recited in 'Tashahhud' the thought of the Rasul (Sallallaahu 'layhi Wasallam) will come and should come. The Salaat will not be rendered incorrect and this is not unlawful at all. The respected Moulana did not stop anyone from this.

Muhammed Salman Shamsi said...

A good post except that poem. I had read all comments of which some people said why to bother what maulvi ashraf ali thanvi had written we have to just follow quran and hadees. Everybody of us known that we had to advice other of right and stop of other of any wrong, hence the post is not to insult but to show what is wrong. Hence one should follow such person. l comments of which some people said why to bother what maulvi ashraf ali thanvi had written we have to just follow quran and hadees. Everybody of us known that we had to advice other of right and stop of other of any wrong, hence the post is not to insult but to show what is wrong. Hence one should follow such person.

hanafi said...

the false allegation on hazrat moulana ashraf ali thanavi(ra) testifies the fact that the true aalim will face the allegations on the part of ulamae soo,so it is natural.in order to get clear the minds of those who got false impression of ulama deoband-thanavi sahab,i recommend to get through the book HIFZ UL EMAN with clarifications published by alfurqan book depot lukhnow.

Butt Reyaz said...

i gets frustrated by reading this page and comments

Butt Reyaz said...

The one and the only true and faithfull sect is ahle sunnat wal jamat

Truth lover said...

mai confuse muslim tha ki kya sahi hai aur galat to maine investigation kya finally jo mujhe pata chala woh yeh hai- British hukoomat indian muslims break nahi kr paa rahi thi jo ki to Ahmad raza khan ko apna agent banaya muslim unity ko break krne ke lye, Ahmad raza khan ne Hifzul Iman ka Arbic me apne hisaab se translation kya aur arab se kufr ka fatwa le aaye aur Indian muslim ko Muhammad p.b.u.h ki muhabbot ko base banate hue muslims unity ko break kr dya aur ye fatwa dya ki Indian muslim British hukoomt se na fight kare... Baad me jb Arab ke Ulma ko sahi translation pata chala to unhone fatwe se aqne sign wapas le lye aur Ahmad raza khan se alag ho gye..... jo fatwa net pe upload hai woh pahle ka hai jo aksar log dekh kr gumrah ho jaate hai net pe woh bhi proof jisse ye proof hota hai ki Ahmad raza khan ek british agent the aur Arab ulma ki taraf se fatwe wapas le lye gye the... Now i follow Quran n sahi Hadees for straight path not Ahmad raza khan Alhamdulillah

Truth lover said...

this is the link for taking fatwa back http://www31.brinkster.com/ak4thanvi/TUCK.html

Truth lover said...

this is the link shows Ahmad raza khan was a british agent http://razakhanimazhab.weebly.com/english1.html

Truth lover said...

Zakir naik written maafi naama Jisse ye proof hota hai jo fatwa zakir pe kufr ka lagaya gya tha woh ab valid nahi raha http://twocircles.net/2008nov16/text_dr_zakir_naik_s_letter_repentance.html

Truth lover said...

Aap sub bhi investigation kr ke kisi ko koi label de verna Bukhari ki hadees ke hisaab se hm khud kaafir ho jayenge- Allah knows best
-
Allah Hafiz

omi said...

the poem, at the end shows the thinking and mental caliper or writer..... afsoos.

guess said...

Remember, if the prophets of Allah were condemned for their tasks. So what about Moulana Hazrat Ashraf Ali Thanvi. This has been the sunnath coming along that people of Na-Haq condemn the people on truth..ex: Innaka la majnoon...etc

Syed Khalid Hussain said...

Ashraf Ali Sahib Thanvi 's belifs

1.It is satisfying to say Laa'llaaha il-lal Laahu Ashraf Alee Rasool-ul-Laah and Al-Laahum-ma Salli 'Ala Saiy-yidina Nabiy-yina Ashraf Alee and there is no harm in saying so. (Risaalah Al lmaad, page 35,Ashraf Ali Sahib Thanvi)

2.The kind of knowledge and the amount of knowledge of the unseen given by Almighty Al-Laah to the holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu 'Alaihi Wa Sallam) has also been given to animals, lunatics and children. (Hifzul Ieemnan, page 7,Ashraf Ali Sahib Thanvi).
now its very clear from the above refrence that he is not the "saint of ummah". so please stopm praising the Ghustaqey e Rasool